Setting up a guitar for drop B tuning

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Nostradamus

Hi, I am going to be re-tuning 1 of my guitars, currently in standard E, to drop B, the lowest tuning I have tried so far. I know I am going to demand some heavier estimate strings (I'k going with 11-56) but will I have to make other adjustments to the truss rod or tail piece for intonation?

DeathrollJM

other than changing the strings, adjusting the intonation, you are good, if you get the right gadge strings, you might not take to touch the truss rod, if not then you lot take a minor truss rod adjustment to do.

that is if you dont take an FR o floating span.

Nostradamus

No FR, but TOM and tailpiece. What is the best mode to see if the truss rod needs adjusting. Concur the guitar upwards and await downwards the neck and see if it is directly?

DeathrollJM

yup, if it bows just compensate it by a few turns, honestly yous don't accept to get it to the thousandth of an inch, you lot eyes volition do a very coarse and a moderate fine job, whatsoever more than fine tunning is piffling, and barely noticeable. there will be a slight curve on the fretboard correct before it reaches the nut, so that is normal.

about probable if you played standard with 10-48, driblet B in 11-56 wont move the truss rod, i wouldn't even worry unless i was getting strong fretbuzz.

57Octane

Ive got a beater in Drop-B with .10-.52's. Information technology's a shitty guitar so information technology buzzes regardless, only I didn't really have to mess with it much. Information technology'southward intonated and the cervix is direct. Sounds pretty damn cool IMO. I similar messing around with information technology. :D

Nostradamus

Yeah I've been learning a bunch of Machine Head songs recently and would actually like a guitar dedicated to that tuning so I don't take to keep switching around all the time, thats why I am doing this. Thanks for the help and so far.

DeathrollJM

Yes I've been learning a bunch of Motorcar Head songs recently and would actually like a guitar defended to that tuning so I don't have to go on switching around all the time, thats why I am doing this. Thanks for the aid so far.

you lot must exist talking almost former machine head, considering they're re playing in drop-c at present

Mofoski9000

i've always played in low tunings. all i've e'er done was alter the strings and had no bug at all.

Mr Pigwalk

i've always played in depression tunings. all i've ever done was change the strings and had no bug at all.

+1 Aforementioned here.

Nostradamus

I'one thousand pretty sure its - B F# B E Yard# C# - on the last two albums

asbloodrunsblack

yep machine head are in B F# B E Thousand# C#/ C# for through the ashes , the called-for reddish ..... , the more things change , and the blackening . dunno about supercharger i dont bother with it

gorsch

actually, Burn My Optics is D standard down to 430hz instead of 440hz and for a few songs they drop the D to C. They also do that on the Blackening. Aesthetics of Hate is standard D (430hz). The residual is B just I believe they tune up from 440hz to 450hz. I know it's strange. I got a chance to talk gear with Rob and his tech. Anyhow, pretty much if Rob is using his Warlock it'south standard D 430hz only D standard 440 would work. And if information technology's his kicking ass 5, B would work. Yous may hear a slight divergence, mainly for all the natural harmonics they use.

-sometime/blood for blood/block/aesthetics of detest and perhaps a few others I havent learned yet off the Blackening are D standard.
-The residual off Fire my Eyes are dropped C
-The residuum are B F# B E G# C#.

gorsch

Allow me know if ya need assist figuring out some parts. I have a lot of gratuitous time and then I've learned near their songs. Of course except from Supercharger. I just learned the good one (Bulldozer) from that, and they're all pretty like shooting fish in a barrel on that album.

Nostradamus

Yeah I but learnt Imperium, Halo, and Now I Lay Thee Downward
Plan on learning Slanderous and possibly Vim or Wipe The Tears next.
I'one thousand pretty sure the ones I have been learning so far are in B.

By the way is the primary riff in Imperium this:

--20---------------------
-----------53------------
------2222------22225222

Or:

--20---------------------
-----------53------------
------2222------22226300

?

I'yard pretty sure its the first only a lot of the tabs I've found seem to contradict each other

Also, dumbass question, what is the departure between 440 and 450hz :o

gorsch

------20------------------- ------------
--------------53----------- echo but PH on ----9-------
---------0000---0000630000 ------------

instead of -----0000630000---- or atleast thats what I play.

but it'due south been a while since I've gone through that i.
The normal pitch is 440. It's known as concert pitch. Nigh tuners at present have the ability to change what "normal" is. Say y'all were playing with a real pianoforte and you lot noticed that your guitar is a piffling off from the piano but you are "in melody" perfectly. Instaed of trying to tune a pianoforte you tin can find out how many hz the pianoforte is off by and melody correctly to that. Simply put, 430hz similar tuning downward from 440 less than a quarter footstep. If you desire to know more I'll write tomarrow. I've gotta go out work and become to practice. Cold beer is calling my proper name.

DeathrollJM

i merely checked an the blackening is in standard D, drop-c, don't believe me play forth with information technology, double check it and if it sounds right in drop b, you might want to double check your tuning equally well.

gorsch

i but checked an the blackening is in standard D, drop-c, don't believe me play along with it, double bank check it and if it sounds right in drib b, y'all might want to double cheque your tuning besides.

your correct. The only reason B might sound shut is because they tune slightly sharper. It'southward non really D standard (or dropped C) or C# standard (or dropped B) it's in between because they tune to 430hz as oppesed to 440hz. Dime did things like that through his whole career. You lot bring out harmonics that arent normally heard. Google it. I really adopt to play tuned to 430hz myself, but it'south harder for recording considering everything is slightly apartment. You can practise it but most the guys I've recorded with dont desire to bother changing anything.

gorsch

oh, sorry. The original question was "whats the difference between 440 and 450?" 450hz is sharper. So on TTAOTE (ashes) they tune to dropped B but slightly sharp. I forget how many hz are in a stride but call up of it as tunning up a quarter stride, but it's really less than a quarter stride.

Nostradamus

Is it also similar that on the Blackening? Sorry I'1000 getting a tad confused with all of this :p
What should I gear up me tuner to for tuning to TTAOE and the Blackening (for the majority of songs)

gorsch

TTAOE is dropped B in 450hz. Blackening is D standard or dropped C in 430hz. Just utilise 440 for either and information technology'll piece of work.